Good for you Shepherd Book. Both my and wife and I have given talks at the UU church in Jamestown about the JW cult. The congregation received it very favorable. Most did not know some of the very dangerous things that take place with the Wt. also did not know how they feel about them as being god fodder unless they become JW. They all thought they was just very friendly people trying to sell a maz. Now they know better and many now know how to engage them in a conversation that may leave doubts with them. I have no idea what song to play from the old Wt. song book. Pick something that you feel would fit your talk from there song book. They have many good songs. Best of luck with you and your talk. Still Totally ADD
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An Invitation and a Question
by Shepherd Book inif you live in the twin cities in minnesota, come to the uu church in bloomington on sunday, july 27th.
i'm giving a presentation there about jws and about leaving, shunning, things like that.
one hour, 10:30, free on-site childcare available.. here's a link with more info.
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Happy Birthday,Dogpatch
by Bangalore inhappy birthday,dear randy.have a great day and celebration.. .
bangalore.
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Happy Birthday to you and many more to come. Still Totally ADD
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We are an Evil Aposta-Family
by Skinnedsheep inin the last 6 months my family and i have stopped attending cold turkey.
it is incredible to me to see how our so called friends have dropped us like we were a snake covered in spiders.
we actually havent really said anything to anybody about why we stopped.
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Best of luck to you and your family. Anything worth doing takes alot of hard work. Remember you now have the truth on your side. Still Totally ADD
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Would like all of your imput on this. Please
by Still Totally ADD inboth reopened mind and i are now in our early 60's and it seems our conversations lately have been on putting everything up for sale and buying a rv and travel until we can't anymore.
it has been a dream of ours for along time to see all the site's in the u.s. and canada.
we feel we could make money as we go by selling and teaching using herbs and gardening.
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Thank you, Thank you and Thank you all for such great advice on this subject. You all have given us much encouragement and many things we have already thought of and many more we have not. You all have open our minds to great possibilities on what we can do. This is what I have glean from what you have all told me.
1. financial planning is very important 2. Remember we are older we could get sick or even be in a auto accident 3. Have at lease 2 or 3 years of complete living expenses locked away 4. Establish a reasonable schedule before leaving 5. Make sure you have internet access 6. Read about other people who have done it 7. Rent a RV at first instead of buying one 8. Think about renting our home instead of selling it 9. If we get a RV get a simple well built one 10. Don't gamble all you have on this adventure 11. Expand our interest and travel to Europe 12. RV's get low gas mileage look at that expense 13. Keep your hous in FL 14. Look for discussion forums on the internet on RVing 15. Real estate appreciates but RV's depreciate 16. Have a base home to go to when health goes bad. 17. Do your math on RV repair 18. Think Wal-mart or other cheap places to set-up 19. Think about a camper or trailer instead of a motor home 20. Lease your home for a year and don't burn your bridges. 21. Never sell your real estate unless you absolutely have to 22. Remember we have a mortgage free home it may not be wise to give up. 23. Have alternative safety net. 24. Do Europe first on the cheap staying at hostels 25. Take advantage of renting both homes as vaction homes. 26. Time to go looking for my lost mind. LOL 27. Don't let anxiety take over, enjoy life one day at a time 28. Buy older camper not a motorhome 29. Do it for only a month and calculate your expenses to see if we can afford it 30. Look at web-sites on renting your home and web-sites on RVing.
30 great points and I am sure when I read this post again I will get more idea's. This is what I love about this site. Again Thanks to all of you and maybe if we do end up RVing we will get to meet some of you wonderful folks. Still Totally ADD
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Would like all of your imput on this. Please
by Still Totally ADD inboth reopened mind and i are now in our early 60's and it seems our conversations lately have been on putting everything up for sale and buying a rv and travel until we can't anymore.
it has been a dream of ours for along time to see all the site's in the u.s. and canada.
we feel we could make money as we go by selling and teaching using herbs and gardening.
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Hi Jamie how are you doing? I don't want to go to that house and live in FL. To many bad things happen there. I would sell it or rent it. I do not know yet. For the winter time we would be in the south somewhere. We lived in FL for over 40 years. That is about the last place I want to go to. I would rather explore some other state to see something new. We are just at the thinking this thing out stage right now also we would do this after we start getting our S.S. Boy has everyone given some great advice. This is what I love about this forum everyone has a diffrent viewpoints and that is what I need. I hope this finds you and your family well. Hope to someday come down to your place for a visit. Take care. Still Totally ADD
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Would like all of your imput on this. Please
by Still Totally ADD inboth reopened mind and i are now in our early 60's and it seems our conversations lately have been on putting everything up for sale and buying a rv and travel until we can't anymore.
it has been a dream of ours for along time to see all the site's in the u.s. and canada.
we feel we could make money as we go by selling and teaching using herbs and gardening.
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I know what you mean about gas GrreatTeacher. My idea would be only 1/2 day to 1 day of driving then set for about 1 to 2 weeks before going to your next stop. Also I am thinking about buying a used RV no more than 10 years old and redoing it inside and out. That way I feel I would have no more than about $25,000 to $30,000 in it. There is no way I could afford a $150,000 RV and then loose half it's vaule as soon as you drive it off the lot. This is the only way it could work for us. Still Totally ADD
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Would like all of your imput on this. Please
by Still Totally ADD inboth reopened mind and i are now in our early 60's and it seems our conversations lately have been on putting everything up for sale and buying a rv and travel until we can't anymore.
it has been a dream of ours for along time to see all the site's in the u.s. and canada.
we feel we could make money as we go by selling and teaching using herbs and gardening.
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I don't know where to start. You all have given us alot to think about. I will add a little more information to this subject. We live in a mortgage free log home in NW PA in a valley looking at a mountian range. It truly is a million dollar view. We live out in the country. Have a large garden and chickens. My wife and I are working on starting a herbal teaching center we already have a sign up that looks like a sun flower that says "Love Your Weeds" Herblist teaching center. I have a large workshop were I do some funriture refinishing. I find old wood and furiture and people throw and and restore it and sell it. When we found our home it was one more rain storm from being torn down. I have been in construction all my life and this was exactly what we wanted. We totally gutted it and redid the whole house. New everything. I used alot of old barn wood and wood trim from 150 year old homes from around here. It is all done now. It is a very cheap house to live in. As you can see this is a very daunting idea we are thinking about. We own a place still in FL as soon as my mother passes away we can sell it. We would also have to sell this home we live in here in PA to make this all work. So should we give up the somewhat security of our home or sell everything and go on the road? We would have to sell everything to make this work. Again thanks for all the comments we will both study what you have all said. Still Totally ADD
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I know 2 of the Elders on the Ray Franz JC
by James Jackson inwhen i read coc, i was stunned that the 2 elders (theotis french & rob dibble) were on ray franz judcial committee.
i have known these men for over 20 years having done rbc and convention work with them.
they are still elders today which means they were in their early 30's(which is unheard of for a case of this importance to have inexperienced elders to sit on) on this committee.. without revealing myself, i have never tried(but have wanted to), ask them about their on having to judge a former gb member.. then out of the blue, about a year ago, i was mentioning how hard it is trying to get younger ones to volunteer to one of these elders, and he says"this is nothing compared to to sitting on the committee that had to disfellowship ray franz".
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Nothing new under the sun when it comes to the Wt. Cult. I have seen this in action on other cases where I lived. Still Totally ADD
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Would like all of your imput on this. Please
by Still Totally ADD inboth reopened mind and i are now in our early 60's and it seems our conversations lately have been on putting everything up for sale and buying a rv and travel until we can't anymore.
it has been a dream of ours for along time to see all the site's in the u.s. and canada.
we feel we could make money as we go by selling and teaching using herbs and gardening.
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Both Reopened Mind and I are now in our early 60's and it seems our conversations lately have been on putting everything up for sale and buying a RV and travel until we can't anymore. It has been a dream of ours for along time to see all the site's in the U.S. and Canada. We feel we could make money as we go by selling and teaching using herbs and gardening. We have many contacts when it comes to that. If that does not work we could do odd jobs to support us. We would only do this when we can collect S.S. I know for many this sounds crazy but as we have come to realize you only live once. Our health is good and we are both very strong for our age. Reopened Mind is a herblist and wants to see other areas of the country and study other herbs that grow in that area. For me I would love to teach others about high density gardening so everyone could have fresh food. We both love camping and the outdoors. The biggest thing that concerns us is what would happen to us when we get to old to travel? Will we have enough money for this? Would we wake up 1 year into this adventure and say "what have we done". We both have worked for ourselves for most of our life so selling ourself would not be a problem in making extra money. Also we both feel if we don't try it, it will be something we will always regret. Plus we feel we would be able to meet some of you wonderful folks out there. One big dream is to go to flippers camping get together. We are both looking at this very closely weighing the pros and the cons of this idea. This would be something that we would undertake in about 2 to 3 years. So Please we are looking for all your opinions on this matter. For we feel this would be very helpful for us. I will from this point making a update on this from time to time so all will know which direction we will be going. Thank you for all your help. Still Totally ADD
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Why Watchtower fails young people
by kneehighmiah in1. no fun.
2. doesn't teach good decision making.
jws cannot choose the color of their underwear without first consulting watchtower publications.
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I have told this story before. I was about 14 years of age at the time and a fellow school student ask me what the Wt. believed. It told him that the whole world was bad and god was going to kill everyone because they did not believe in the Wt. god. He listen to me and then I asked him what his church taught. He told me that god was love and that jesus loved everyone and would never hurt them. I was taken back by what he said. I had nothing else to say to him. I had no come back for what he told me. Here I am 60 years old and I still remember that conversation with him. Yes the Wt. cult does fail in 100 of ways with young people. Just one other thought when I was a kid I was told many times that children was not important. Because this was the time of the end and the only thing that was important was selling maz. Still Totally ADD